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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 01:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kraig Closser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kraig Closser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 15:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 00:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fortunately, for now anyways, I don&#039;t have to worry too much about a compromised immune system - the place I work at every day is crawling with filth and all manner of bacteria.  I&#039;ve worked there for over two years and caught a couple of significant illnesses from it (like bronchitis), so my bodies defenses are operating on high-alert status.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fortunately, for now anyways, I don&#8217;t have to worry too much about a compromised immune system &#8211; the place I work at every day is crawling with filth and all manner of bacteria.  I&#8217;ve worked there for over two years and caught a couple of significant illnesses from it (like bronchitis), so my bodies defenses are operating on high-alert status.</p>
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		<title>By: grainnerhuad</title>
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		<dc:creator>grainnerhuad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overactive Immune System:  There surely is a balance, it is however low-tech and we humans love our high tech gadgetry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overactive Immune System:  There surely is a balance, it is however low-tech and we humans love our high tech gadgetry.</p>
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		<title>By: grainnerhuad</title>
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		<dc:creator>grainnerhuad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hubbleboy, it is clear that there are some bacteria that work better than our bodies and will kill  you dead.  However, I would ask you to think about the fact that it is possible the reason that our bodies don&#039;t adapt as well or as fast as bacteria is because we intervene too much.  If you look at an evolutionary model it becomes more clear that the more adaptable of whatever species will survive and pass those adaptations along to their offspring.  It is possible that we could be a lot healthier as a species if we allowed more often for our bodies to work the way they are supposed to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hubbleboy, it is clear that there are some bacteria that work better than our bodies and will kill  you dead.  However, I would ask you to think about the fact that it is possible the reason that our bodies don&#8217;t adapt as well or as fast as bacteria is because we intervene too much.  If you look at an evolutionary model it becomes more clear that the more adaptable of whatever species will survive and pass those adaptations along to their offspring.  It is possible that we could be a lot healthier as a species if we allowed more often for our bodies to work the way they are supposed to.</p>
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		<title>By: Hubbleboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hubbleboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 03:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought provoking blog. I have to disagree with you a bit on two points.  We are not good at irradicating germs, bacteria and viruses.  They evolve and adapt much better than we do. And quicker to.  Bacteria has been around much longer than homosapians.  I&#039;m talking hundreds of millions of years.  With regards to hand sanitiazers in aquariums and pettings zoos.  This is mostly driven by insurance companies and protection from litigation around people getting E coli or other bacteria that are naturally around these destinations.  Blame the lawyers and the sue happy individuals that want to capitalize and blame someone for their kids brief illness (yes I know E coli can be deadly to children and folks with compromized immune systems.  But a simple hand was would do.  Common sense people. Please. I liked your point about not being a germaphobe.  We need parasites and bacteria in our body in order for us to survive.  There is a symbiotic relationship that is important.   Take cows for instance.  Since we have moved to housing our cows in massive cow lots and fed &quot;processed&quot; food there has been an huge increase in E coli in our food chain.  This is because free ranging cattle eat grasses which put bacteria in their stomachs that protect the cattle for E coli. So lets buy more free range cattle to eat. Or better yet. Shoot your own deer or elk (watch out for scrapie :) ).  Friends of ours raise their own cow together, feed it alfalfa, butcher it and split the meat.  Sounds good to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking blog. I have to disagree with you a bit on two points.  We are not good at irradicating germs, bacteria and viruses.  They evolve and adapt much better than we do. And quicker to.  Bacteria has been around much longer than homosapians.  I&#8217;m talking hundreds of millions of years.  With regards to hand sanitiazers in aquariums and pettings zoos.  This is mostly driven by insurance companies and protection from litigation around people getting E coli or other bacteria that are naturally around these destinations.  Blame the lawyers and the sue happy individuals that want to capitalize and blame someone for their kids brief illness (yes I know E coli can be deadly to children and folks with compromized immune systems.  But a simple hand was would do.  Common sense people. Please. I liked your point about not being a germaphobe.  We need parasites and bacteria in our body in order for us to survive.  There is a symbiotic relationship that is important.   Take cows for instance.  Since we have moved to housing our cows in massive cow lots and fed &#8220;processed&#8221; food there has been an huge increase in E coli in our food chain.  This is because free ranging cattle eat grasses which put bacteria in their stomachs that protect the cattle for E coli. So lets buy more free range cattle to eat. Or better yet. Shoot your own deer or elk (watch out for scrapie <img src='http://subversify.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).  Friends of ours raise their own cow together, feed it alfalfa, butcher it and split the meat.  Sounds good to me.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 17:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Overactive Immune system</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overactive Immune system</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:55:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting article!
Surely it must be possible to strike a balance between over-sanitised water and water in some third world countries where they may not get crohn&#039;s but are prey to other killer diseases.
I am not a great fan of fluoride but in some places it is put into the drinking water so we have no choice as to whether we get it or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting article!<br />
Surely it must be possible to strike a balance between over-sanitised water and water in some third world countries where they may not get crohn&#8217;s but are prey to other killer diseases.<br />
I am not a great fan of fluoride but in some places it is put into the drinking water so we have no choice as to whether we get it or not.</p>
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		<title>By: The Late Mitchell Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Late Mitchell Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 08:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thought provoking and yet scary article, Grainne!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thought provoking and yet scary article, Grainne!</p>
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		<title>By: karlsie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Dec 2009 23:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grainne, water, as you know is one of my pet subjects.  One of my big objections to purified water is that it removes even the trace minerals that our bodies need.  Considering that most of our agricultural foods are grown in nutrient exhausted soil and are artificially pumped for development, there are very few trace minerals in our foods, as well.  If we don&#039;t have the proper nutrients, we have weaker defense systems. 

Your paragraph on the aquarium experience left me feeling a bit anxious.  I was always taught to put my hands in the water first before touching the sea creatures so that our dry touch will not carry a foreign bacteria the animal can&#039;t combat.  I&#039;m glad the sanitizers are an after the act caution. Most sea life has a slightly slimy outside cover, which is their own protective immune system.  To touch one with sanitizer on your hands could very possibly kill it.  

I really balked at having my children vaccinated and didn&#039;t have it done until the public school they attended stated it was mandatory, not voluntary.  I had been told by my midwife that children who nursed had all the same immunities as their mothers, and i had nursed my children until they were three.  Fortunately, they had both already had the chicken pox, with no great hazards beyond discomfort, so they were allowed to skip that particular vaccination.   

I also wonder greatly about America&#039;s new list of antibiotics and can&#039;t help but wonder if some of the affects have been purposely diluted, altered or simply respond to only particular types of body chemistry.  One shot of penicillin cleared up a very severe bout of Montezuma&#039;s Revenge within forty-eight hours while i was in Mexico, but ten day&#039;s worth of amoxicillin, back home in the United States, didn&#039;t clear a sinus infection.  Strange to think that while i was in Mexico, i battled with heat, hunger, sub standard living conditions, dehydration, polluted water, but i never once battled with a disease, bacteria or a virus that wouldn&#039;t go away with a little standard medication.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grainne, water, as you know is one of my pet subjects.  One of my big objections to purified water is that it removes even the trace minerals that our bodies need.  Considering that most of our agricultural foods are grown in nutrient exhausted soil and are artificially pumped for development, there are very few trace minerals in our foods, as well.  If we don&#8217;t have the proper nutrients, we have weaker defense systems. </p>
<p>Your paragraph on the aquarium experience left me feeling a bit anxious.  I was always taught to put my hands in the water first before touching the sea creatures so that our dry touch will not carry a foreign bacteria the animal can&#8217;t combat.  I&#8217;m glad the sanitizers are an after the act caution. Most sea life has a slightly slimy outside cover, which is their own protective immune system.  To touch one with sanitizer on your hands could very possibly kill it.  </p>
<p>I really balked at having my children vaccinated and didn&#8217;t have it done until the public school they attended stated it was mandatory, not voluntary.  I had been told by my midwife that children who nursed had all the same immunities as their mothers, and i had nursed my children until they were three.  Fortunately, they had both already had the chicken pox, with no great hazards beyond discomfort, so they were allowed to skip that particular vaccination.   </p>
<p>I also wonder greatly about America&#8217;s new list of antibiotics and can&#8217;t help but wonder if some of the affects have been purposely diluted, altered or simply respond to only particular types of body chemistry.  One shot of penicillin cleared up a very severe bout of Montezuma&#8217;s Revenge within forty-eight hours while i was in Mexico, but ten day&#8217;s worth of amoxicillin, back home in the United States, didn&#8217;t clear a sinus infection.  Strange to think that while i was in Mexico, i battled with heat, hunger, sub standard living conditions, dehydration, polluted water, but i never once battled with a disease, bacteria or a virus that wouldn&#8217;t go away with a little standard medication.</p>
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