Comments on: A Shot in the Foot – or: Oh, Mr. Lincoln! http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/ An online magazine offering an alternative, subversive perspective to mainstream media. Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:13:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Tracey Sobota http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-4882 Tracey Sobota Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:01:43 +0000 http://subversify.com/?p=3252#comment-4882 I must say, politics and religion seem to bring out the best along with the the worst in folk. The best because both can lead to folk being incredibly kind, the bad side because both can lead to incredibly stubborn and irrational behaviour. I am not having a pop at you, this post just made me see it, so thankyou for that. I must say, politics and religion seem to bring out the best along with the the worst in folk. The best because both can lead to folk being incredibly kind, the bad side because both can lead to incredibly stubborn and irrational behaviour. I am not having a pop at you, this post just made me see it, so thankyou for that.

]]> By: Beverly Kurtin http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-2666 Beverly Kurtin Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:24:10 +0000 http://subversify.com/?p=3252#comment-2666 Although Lincoln's casket is made of heavy lead, I'm certain that if anyone listened, they could hear the boom boom boom of Abe's fists hitting the sides of the casket. Senator Bigot...err...Boner...dang it! Senator Minority John Boehner thinks that Homosexuality or gender dysphonia is a "CHOICE" adds to the fact that he is a, as was said by the school marm in Blazing Saddles, "the leading asshole" in America politics today. When did he, or any other heterosexual, CHOOSE to be heterosexual. Science has proven that ten percent of the population has a brain that causes them to BE homosexual. It isn't a choice. I did not choose to be heterosexual, it just happened. Boys stopped having cooties and started looking kinda cute; I didn't choose it, it just happened. Boehner CHOSE to be a bigot, I wonder how that happens? I well remember the '50s and wouldn't go back for anything. I'm happy to be at the point where a black man can be our president and people like St. Palin can be a target for fools to pay her more than she would have made as governor of Alaska. The first time I saw her I had in instant loathing for her because of her clear bigotry and her whiny, whiny voice. Faux "news" may praise the GOP...let them, they have only 20% of the population behind them. Although Lincoln’s casket is made of heavy lead, I’m certain that if anyone listened, they could hear the boom boom boom of Abe’s fists hitting the sides of the casket. Senator Bigot…err…Boner…dang it! Senator Minority John Boehner thinks that Homosexuality or gender dysphonia is a “CHOICE” adds to the fact that he is a, as was said by the school marm in Blazing Saddles, “the leading asshole” in America politics today.

When did he, or any other heterosexual, CHOOSE to be heterosexual. Science has proven that ten percent of the population has a brain that causes them to BE homosexual. It isn’t a choice. I did not choose to be heterosexual, it just happened. Boys stopped having cooties and started looking kinda cute; I didn’t choose it, it just happened. Boehner CHOSE to be a bigot, I wonder how that happens?

I well remember the ’50s and wouldn’t go back for anything. I’m happy to be at the point where a black man can be our president and people like St. Palin can be a target for fools to pay her more than she would have made as governor of Alaska. The first time I saw her I had in instant loathing for her because of her clear bigotry and her whiny, whiny voice.

Faux “news” may praise the GOP…let them, they have only 20% of the population behind them.

]]> By: Astra Navigo http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-2665 Astra Navigo Tue, 27 Oct 2009 02:10:38 +0000 http://subversify.com/?p=3252#comment-2665 As Karla mentioned, I don't know how much thrashing the man would do - he's buried in several tons of concrete, after all. The '50's were a great time - I was five; almost six, when it ended, but I remember the music, the cars, the T.V. -- all of it. Then again, I was white. Still am. Bad time, as you mentioned, for everyone else. This is the problem with the Republicans - they want to return us to a Time That Never Was..... As Karla mentioned, I don’t know how much thrashing the man would do – he’s buried in several tons of concrete, after all.

The ’50’s were a great time – I was five; almost six, when it ended, but I remember the music, the cars, the T.V. — all of it.

Then again, I was white. Still am.

Bad time, as you mentioned, for everyone else. This is the problem with the Republicans – they want to return us to a Time That Never Was…..

]]> By: thedavid http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-2663 thedavid Mon, 26 Oct 2009 18:32:06 +0000 http://subversify.com/?p=3252#comment-2663 One line in particular speaks to me Karlsie, as does your thought. The nostalgia for the 50's. It was never "Leave It To Beaver," "Ozzie and Harriet," or "Father Knows Best." I was a very tough period for anyone who was not a white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant male. Women, people of color, GLBT people, and non-Christians were badly marginalized and patronized. Although I love the music, and I do love the nostalgia, but i wouldn't go back for anything. One line in particular speaks to me Karlsie, as does your thought. The nostalgia for the 50’s. It was never “Leave It To Beaver,” “Ozzie and Harriet,” or “Father Knows Best.” I was a very tough period for anyone who was not a white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant male. Women, people of color, GLBT people, and non-Christians were badly marginalized and patronized. Although I love the music, and I do love the nostalgia, but i wouldn’t go back for anything.

]]> By: karlsie http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-2653 karlsie Sun, 25 Oct 2009 23:26:06 +0000 http://subversify.com/?p=3252#comment-2653 I'm not sure how much thrashing Lincoln would do considering he criticized William Seward's anti-slavery platform as too liberal, but i understand your point. There was a time, not so long ago, when the imperfect subscribers to a politically pure ideal, used the limited understanding and awareness of their time period to craft the mandates of a more perfect union. The perfect union has been redefined as a specialized union, a heralding cry to return home to that rather simplified human condition of social value placed on assets, connections, religious choice, status in community, a nostalgia for the nineteen fifties, before civil rights movements, open sexuality, liberal, alternative life styles and questions about military ethics. Not only is this regressive, it's nearly sixty years into a past that few people now remember. The young people being called into the arms of Leave it to Beaver security are only mimicking the innocence of the time period without the naivete, are only being lulled by the appearance of stability without the necessary structure, and are being brainwashed with devices as old as the first radio broadcasts. To all of those who think their views spring either from the freshness of their time period, or a return to former quality of life values, i suggest they read "Ship of Fools". They will discover they were thinking and doing exactly the same things a hundred years ago, just before the onset of two great wars. I’m not sure how much thrashing Lincoln would do considering he criticized William Seward’s anti-slavery platform as too liberal, but i understand your point. There was a time, not so long ago, when the imperfect subscribers to a politically pure ideal, used the limited understanding and awareness of their time period to craft the mandates of a more perfect union. The perfect union has been redefined as a specialized union, a heralding cry to return home to that rather simplified human condition of social value placed on assets, connections, religious choice, status in community, a nostalgia for the nineteen fifties, before civil rights movements, open sexuality, liberal, alternative life styles and questions about military ethics. Not only is this regressive, it’s nearly sixty years into a past that few people now remember. The young people being called into the arms of Leave it to Beaver security are only mimicking the innocence of the time period without the naivete, are only being lulled by the appearance of stability without the necessary structure, and are being brainwashed with devices as old as the first radio broadcasts. To all of those who think their views spring either from the freshness of their time period, or a return to former quality of life values, i suggest they read “Ship of Fools”. They will discover they were thinking and doing exactly the same things a hundred years ago, just before the onset of two great wars.

]]> By: Rich in PA http://subversify.com/2009/10/23/a-shot-in-the-foot-or-oh-mr-lincoln/comment-page-1/#comment-2635 Rich in PA Fri, 23 Oct 2009 23:06:54 +0000 http://subversify.com/?p=3252#comment-2635 it is just amazing when you think about it, you forgot that Louisiana justice of the peace who is worried about black and white babies, his great grand daddy didn't worry too much when he fucked their slaves ... odd how that happened, the concern that is ...... Will America wake up?, and thanks for including that prick Santorum, that mindless little noodle, we got rid of him a couple of years ago (he had been a Senator from Pennsylvania), WHAT A WACK JOB !! He is one hateful little man ... can't believe, well I can I guess, that he would have the nerve pull his head out of the manure pile, the kid has never worked a day in his life and is supported by his in-laws. Why is all this hatred not seen for what it is ? What is wrong with us anymore ? it is just amazing when you think about it, you forgot that Louisiana justice of the peace who is worried about black and white babies, his great grand daddy didn’t worry too much when he fucked their slaves … odd how that happened, the concern that is ……

Will America wake up?, and thanks for including that prick Santorum, that mindless little noodle, we got rid of him a couple of years ago (he had been a Senator from Pennsylvania), WHAT A WACK JOB !! He is one hateful little man … can’t believe, well I can I guess, that he would have the nerve pull his head out of the manure pile, the kid has never worked a day in his life and is supported by his in-laws.

Why is all this hatred not seen for what it is ? What is wrong with us anymore ?

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