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		<title>By: Cyrus Pervis</title>
		<link>http://subversify.com/2009/10/02/religion-and-spirituality-an-atheists-perspective/comment-page-1/#comment-22444</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus Pervis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 00:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, great content, but Wordpress breaks it up on my screen. Maybe it&#039;s the theme you have on the site. Have you throught about Drupal?</description>
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		<title>By: JustMe</title>
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		<dc:creator>JustMe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this;  I totally agree that most children are indoctrinated into their parents&#039; belief system and most never question it...and that&#039;s where I have a problem.  I really don&#039;t care what religion a person is as long as they&#039;ve done the research and actually believe in the dogma being taught therein.  I really think that most people would come to the same conclusions we have if they could study religion objectively- without the &#039;you&#039;re going to hell if you don&#039;t believe&#039; whispering in their inner ear.
I want to recant something I just wrote---I guess I DO care what religion a person is- if that religion believes in violence, slavery, women as chattels- and ALL the Eastern religions are guilty of these- Christians, Muslims, Jews...
The whole world would be better off if we did not bow down to the manmade dictates of an invisible, unexisting diety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this;  I totally agree that most children are indoctrinated into their parents&#8217; belief system and most never question it&#8230;and that&#8217;s where I have a problem.  I really don&#8217;t care what religion a person is as long as they&#8217;ve done the research and actually believe in the dogma being taught therein.  I really think that most people would come to the same conclusions we have if they could study religion objectively- without the &#8216;you&#8217;re going to hell if you don&#8217;t believe&#8217; whispering in their inner ear.<br />
I want to recant something I just wrote&#8212;I guess I DO care what religion a person is- if that religion believes in violence, slavery, women as chattels- and ALL the Eastern religions are guilty of these- Christians, Muslims, Jews&#8230;<br />
The whole world would be better off if we did not bow down to the manmade dictates of an invisible, unexisting diety.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Manzanero</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Manzanero</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 04:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atheism a marvel of the world. Opposing god, is a good way to live.</description>
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		<title>By: las vegas all inclusive packages</title>
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		<dc:creator>las vegas all inclusive packages</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 06:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many threads here seem to try and disprove other people&#039;s faith.  I have no problem with the idea of faith - there are a few things that I take on faith that I have never seen myself with my own two eyes - such as the brain in the person next to me, and the theory of the atom etc. I have looked at the evidence and made a decision that it is probably true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many threads here seem to try and disprove other people&#8217;s faith.  I have no problem with the idea of faith &#8211; there are a few things that I take on faith that I have never seen myself with my own two eyes &#8211; such as the brain in the person next to me, and the theory of the atom etc. I have looked at the evidence and made a decision that it is probably true.</p>
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		<title>By: Polprav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Polprav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello from Russia!
Can I quote a post in your blog with the link to you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello from Russia!<br />
Can I quote a post in your blog with the link to you?</p>
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		<title>By: window fan</title>
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		<dc:creator>window fan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 08:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to say that I love this site.

Greetings from Tim. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to say that I love this site.</p>
<p>Greetings from Tim. <img src='http://subversify.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Astra Navigo (author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astra Navigo (author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 00:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;A-theism (sic) is just that: a very un-nuanced (sic) way for saying negative things about ‘God’.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Hey, Garsett...

First off, please be assured that I didn&#039;t make this up.   

Secondly, also, please don&#039;t think it&#039;s an easy gig, going around, telling people the moral-equivalent of &quot;There ain&#039;t no Santy Claus!&quot;

Third, you&#039;ve missed the entire &lt;i&gt;point&lt;/i&gt;.

The point (I &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; hate hitting people in the head with a shovel!) is this:   &lt;i&gt;There is no &#039;god&#039;&lt;/i&gt;.

Sorry.   

As I pointed out, there is great beauty and immediacy in accepting things as they are.

You want to believe otherwise?   That&#039;s not up to me.

I&#039;ve read the Gita -- and the Q&#039;ran, and the Bible, and several others, including the Egyptian Book of the Dead -- and none of them &#039;explain&#039; anything.

So, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;m left with the same conclusion:  Absent anyone pointing out an unexplainable &quot;Made By God&quot; stamp on the roots of a tree or something, I remain unconvinced.  Incontrovertible proof requires something other than metaphor.

Casting me as &#039;negative&#039; because I don&#039;t regard your imaginary-friend as real isn&#039;t productive, either.

Be well....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;A-theism (sic) is just that: a very un-nuanced (sic) way for saying negative things about ‘God’.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Hey, Garsett&#8230;</p>
<p>First off, please be assured that I didn&#8217;t make this up.   </p>
<p>Secondly, also, please don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an easy gig, going around, telling people the moral-equivalent of &#8220;There ain&#8217;t no Santy Claus!&#8221;</p>
<p>Third, you&#8217;ve missed the entire <i>point</i>.</p>
<p>The point (I <i>really</i> hate hitting people in the head with a shovel!) is this:   <i>There is no &#8216;god&#8217;</i>.</p>
<p>Sorry.   </p>
<p>As I pointed out, there is great beauty and immediacy in accepting things as they are.</p>
<p>You want to believe otherwise?   That&#8217;s not up to me.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read the Gita &#8212; and the Q&#8217;ran, and the Bible, and several others, including the Egyptian Book of the Dead &#8212; and none of them &#8216;explain&#8217; anything.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;m left with the same conclusion:  Absent anyone pointing out an unexplainable &#8220;Made By God&#8221; stamp on the roots of a tree or something, I remain unconvinced.  Incontrovertible proof requires something other than metaphor.</p>
<p>Casting me as &#8216;negative&#8217; because I don&#8217;t regard your imaginary-friend as real isn&#8217;t productive, either.</p>
<p>Be well&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Garsett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Garsett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A-theism is just that: a very un-nuanced way for saying negative things about &#039;God&#039;.
If you like to encourage other people to live in such negativity, be my guest. 
It will not make you happy, however. 
But you can also choose to fill in &#039;God&#039; with everything that is positive.
I doubt you have ever read the description of God in the Bhagavad Gita, for example.
Or experienced God at work while using a symbol language.
In a dynamic meditation, or as a musician improvising in a band? 
I see God in everything, also in nature and our efforts to live in harmony with it, which can also include science.
And it&#039;s this state of consciousness that makes all the difference.
Blessings. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-theism is just that: a very un-nuanced way for saying negative things about &#8216;God&#8217;.<br />
If you like to encourage other people to live in such negativity, be my guest.<br />
It will not make you happy, however.<br />
But you can also choose to fill in &#8216;God&#8217; with everything that is positive.<br />
I doubt you have ever read the description of God in the Bhagavad Gita, for example.<br />
Or experienced God at work while using a symbol language.<br />
In a dynamic meditation, or as a musician improvising in a band?<br />
I see God in everything, also in nature and our efforts to live in harmony with it, which can also include science.<br />
And it&#8217;s this state of consciousness that makes all the difference.<br />
Blessings. <img src='http://subversify.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Astra Navigo (author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astra Navigo (author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I&#039;m a Lama...&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Hey -- I&#039;m a fire-truck.  With a bell, and a siren, and a little dog in my cab that goes &quot;Bark! Bark!&quot;

Saying something doesn&#039;t make it so.

I&#039;ve a pet-peeve of sorts about the His Lama-ness; he hung out with Nazis (he even wrote a letter as a young boy to Adolf Hitler, the &#039;King of the Germans&#039;) - there are photos of the guy wearing Nazi uniforms as an older teenager.

He&#039;s never repudiated this past behavior, but keeps telling everyone how greedy and warlike they are.   

He might have a shred of credibility if he&#039;d actually had to fend for himself for a time, as opposed to living in Lhasa, being catered to, hand and foot.   

I suppose I&#039;d be able to talk myself into some form of &#039;enlightenment&#039; if I didn&#039;t have to hold a job, pay the bills, and deal with what most of us define as &#039;life&#039;.

Until &lt;i&gt;he&lt;/i&gt; does, he&#039;s just an overgrown boy - a case of arrested development, with fancy words....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I&#8217;m a Lama&#8230;&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Hey &#8212; I&#8217;m a fire-truck.  With a bell, and a siren, and a little dog in my cab that goes &#8220;Bark! Bark!&#8221;</p>
<p>Saying something doesn&#8217;t make it so.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve a pet-peeve of sorts about the His Lama-ness; he hung out with Nazis (he even wrote a letter as a young boy to Adolf Hitler, the &#8216;King of the Germans&#8217;) &#8211; there are photos of the guy wearing Nazi uniforms as an older teenager.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s never repudiated this past behavior, but keeps telling everyone how greedy and warlike they are.   </p>
<p>He might have a shred of credibility if he&#8217;d actually had to fend for himself for a time, as opposed to living in Lhasa, being catered to, hand and foot.   </p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;d be able to talk myself into some form of &#8216;enlightenment&#8217; if I didn&#8217;t have to hold a job, pay the bills, and deal with what most of us define as &#8216;life&#8217;.</p>
<p>Until <i>he</i> does, he&#8217;s just an overgrown boy &#8211; a case of arrested development, with fancy words&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Astra Navigo (author)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astra Navigo (author)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 17:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruno, I&#039;ll just say &#039;thank you&#039; here - the inexistence of &#039;god&#039; is a comfort to me, also.

There are a few of us who didn&#039;t blindly follow one parent or the other - we did our own research.   This, of course, is why every religion tries to &#039;catch &#039;em young&#039; - because if they do, the old Jesuit saying becomes true-by-default:  &quot;Give me a boy for five years, and he&#039;s mine for life!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruno, I&#8217;ll just say &#8216;thank you&#8217; here &#8211; the inexistence of &#8216;god&#8217; is a comfort to me, also.</p>
<p>There are a few of us who didn&#8217;t blindly follow one parent or the other &#8211; we did our own research.   This, of course, is why every religion tries to &#8216;catch &#8216;em young&#8217; &#8211; because if they do, the old Jesuit saying becomes true-by-default:  &#8220;Give me a boy for five years, and he&#8217;s mine for life!&#8221;</p>
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